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IRC Log for 2010-03-31

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[16:59] <TroublePanic> hello
[17:02] <drantin> hi
[17:02] <drantin> what's so troubling/panicking?
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[17:12] <TroublePanic> well, I'm trying to install an Ubuntu image, and only an Ubuntu image, on a 1GB flash card
[17:13] <TroublePanic> basically, I'm trying to work around the multiboot.
[17:13] <TroublePanic> so far I can only get to the red screen ...
[17:14] <TroublePanic> It's a bit frustrating.
[17:16] <gregoiregentil> what are you trying to do?
[17:17] <gregoiregentil> Avoid the OS selector?
[17:19] <TroublePanic> that's part of the challenge
[17:19] <TroublePanic> basically, I'm trying to
[17:20] <TroublePanic> a) install a single OS on a Rather Small SD card
[17:20] <TroublePanic> b) get it to boot
[17:21] <TroublePanic> and c) bypass the OS selector, as there will be only one OS to select
[17:25] <TroublePanic> this is just a test, to see if it can be done
[17:26] <TroublePanic> and it would be slightly impossible to install all three operating systems on a single gigabyte
[17:30] <gregoiregentil> There are many options
[17:32] <gregoiregentil> To bypass OS selector but still keep the same squashfs structure, add a file ai-initramfs.cmd on the first partition and define inside IMAGE with the name of your image (ubuntu in your case)
[17:33] <gregoiregentil> You can bypass the whole squashfs architecture by extracting your rootfs to the second partition and removing the folder .images
[17:33] <gregoiregentil> you can even in such configuration recompile the kernel WITHOUT the initramfs to have a faster boot
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[17:37] <Aard> gregoiregentil: the interpart connector, is it some standard connector? (i.e., should I be able to get it from my electronics dealer) I'd like to hook up the bottom part to an x86 machine for easier i2c debugging and to speed up other development, preferably without alligator clamps
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[17:37] <gregoiregentil> Aard: it's a Suyin part or equivalent
[17:38] <gregoiregentil> 200274FRXXXG101ZU
[17:38] <gregoiregentil> for the female part.
[17:38] <gregoiregentil> Aard: Are you in the US? If so I can send you a few spare parts
[17:38] <Aard> great, thanks!
[17:39] <Aard> no, germany
[17:39] <gregoiregentil> Digikey doesn't have this part
[17:41] <Aard> there's a german distributor for suyin parts, I'll just ask them if they can get it for me
[17:41] <gregoiregentil> ok. Keep me posted
[17:41] <Aard> I'm not in a hurry as I'll only be back from finnland in mid april
[17:43] <TroublePanic> @gg; Fascinating! Is initramfs necessary if I don't use squashfs?
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[17:53] <TroublePanic> oh, wait, yes it is, nevermind ...
[17:54] <gregoiregentil> no, it's not if you extract your rootfs to the second partition
[18:01] <TroublePanic> ah. sorry about the confusion. extracting ...
[18:02] <TroublePanic> also, I need the mlo, u-boot, and uImage files on the FAT32 partition. do I need ai-install?
[18:03] <gregoiregentil> no need of ai-install or ai-ui
[18:04] <TroublePanic> does the ext3 partition need a label?
[18:06] <gregoiregentil> no
[18:07] <TroublePanic> alright, here's my setup:
[18:08] <TroublePanic> 41 MB, FAT32, flags: boot, lba
[18:08] <TroublePanic> this contains mlo, u-boot, and uImage
[18:08] <TroublePanic> 814MB, ext3
[18:08] <TroublePanic> the root filesystem
[18:09] <TroublePanic> 132 MB, swap space
[18:09] <TroublePanic> there are no unallocated blocks on the drive
[18:09] <gregoiregentil> sounds OK
[18:13] <TroublePanic> I believe this is the same setup that was giving me problems a while ago ... I'll try booting it. If it's still not past the red screen after a few hours, I'll check back. Thanks for you help!
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[19:50] <viridior> gregoiregentil: any chance i can get a left over display cable? i think i shredded mine :/
[19:50] <gregoiregentil> Yes. Send address to contact@... and reference this chat
[19:51] <gregoiregentil> which board revision do you have?
[19:51] <viridior> sure, thanks
[19:51] <viridior> a1 and a b1 i think
[19:51] <viridior> a1 is shredded though
[19:51] <gregoiregentil> Be very careful when removing the cable. the connector is super super fragile on those boards
[19:53] <viridior> i noticed, i think i didn't put the display cable in the right spot when i screwed the board back into place which rubbed it against a small metal bar holding the battery in the touchpad
[19:53] <viridior> no biggie, but i effectively dont have a display anymore, need to ssh in to do anything
[19:53] <gregoiregentil> ok
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[20:38] <TroublePanic> two and a half hours later ...
[20:39] <drantin> panic sets in?
[20:40] <TroublePanic> ha!
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[20:42] <TroublePanic> no, no, two and a half hours I let my TB constantly try to boot with no success.
[20:43] <TroublePanic> it's not so much panic as it is despair.
[20:43] <TroublePanic> but at least there are other options.
[20:44] <TroublePanic> time to learn how to initramfs.
[20:56] <TroublePanic> Does anyone have any examples of an ai-initramfs.cmd file?
[20:56] <TroublePanic> I have no idea if I'm looking for a script, a binary, something completely different ...
[20:58] <TroublePanic> sorry to be so bothersome today ...
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[21:22] <TroublePanic> all right, I've looked at ai-install.tbz2's /initrd.d and found that ai-initramfs.cmd need only,as far as I know, consist of a single line:
[21:22] <TroublePanic> IMAGE=whatever
[21:23] <TroublePanic> if the uImage is an image'd version of ai-install this would make sense ...
[21:26] <gregoiregentil> correct
[21:26] <gregoiregentil> just one line should be enough
[21:31] <TroublePanic> awesome, mystery solved. ... but now I think that the second partition is having a bit of trouble mounting.
[21:44] <TroublePanic> out of curiosity, how does one interrupt the standard boot process, and boot into a terminal?
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[22:01] <TroublePanic> ah, ctrl+alt+F1
[22:01] <drantin> that wouldn't interrupt anything, just change vterms...
[22:01] <drantin> the process is still going on in the background
[22:03] <TroublePanic> hm.
[22:03] <TroublePanic> all the same, it did yield some information.
[22:04] <drantin> you can mess with the init system...
[22:04] <drantin> not sure what ubuntu is using nowadays...
[22:04] <drantin> upstart iirc, but that could be wrong
[22:05] <TroublePanic> this one's a bit suspicious:
[22:05] <drantin> if you can craft a script that starts exactly the services you need, just pass that on the kernel line you use to boot... unless that's different for ARM systems...
[22:05] <TroublePanic> "mount: mounting /mnt/.splash on /mnt/mnt/.splash failed: no such file or directory"
[22:06] <drantin> what's fstab say about that mount point?
[22:07] <TroublePanic> well the very next line says that it can't find /dev/console . and that's terrible.
[22:08] <TroublePanic> and then it panics on me.
[22:08] <TroublePanic> karma? the other SD works just fine.
[22:09] <TroublePanic> anyways, I don't think I could find out if I wanted to.
[22:09] <TroublePanic> and believe me I *do* want to
[22:23] <TroublePanic> "FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!"
[22:24] <TroublePanic> would this cause problems? Specifically, would this prevent boot/setup from finding anything?
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