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IRC Log for 2010-03-20

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[7:44] <radioxid> Hi hi everyone!
[7:45] <radioxid> Ever heard of fit-pc ?
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[7:45] <radioxid> http://www.fit-pc.com/web/
[7:45] <leinir> Yes, and it's pretty nifty :)
[7:45] <radioxid> yeah
[7:46] <Mrkva> hmm, based on intel atom?
[7:47] <Mrkva> not bad :)
[7:47] <radioxid> It only consumes 4 to 8W!!
[7:47] <radioxid> yap
[7:47] <Corsac> but crappy chipset
[7:47] <radioxid> GMA5
[7:47] <radioxid> 00
[7:48] <radioxid> closed source drivers...
[7:48] <radioxid> It can play real HD through GMA500 though
[7:49] <radioxid> at least 720p
[7:49] * Meizirkki waits for omap4
[7:50] <Aard> I've not been buying anything requiring closed source drivers for more than 10 years, and I'll keep it that way. problems you might run into are just too annoying
[7:50] <Mrkva> radioxid: intel has opensource drivers
[7:50] <radioxid> Mrkva: there's still a binary blob for GMA500
[7:51] <Mrkva> radioxid: is it?
[7:51] <Mrkva> okay, you're probalby correct
[7:51] <radioxid> Mrkva: Which is not built by Intel
[7:51] <Mrkva> by the way, any tesla coiler here?
[7:55] <radioxid> Could I fit my fit-pc in your TB using the reference design? or did I have misunderstood what the reference design is about ?
[7:58] <Mrkva> radioxid: you'd need to make 5V->12V converter
[7:59] <Mrkva> and you won't be able to use TB LCD (probably, not sure what connection is used)
[8:08] <radioxid> I'm waiting for PixelQi's capacitive multitouch screen and the 2GHz & 2GB RAM future fit-pc...
[8:08] <leinir> a problem with current touch screen tech: it makes surfaces shiny
[8:08] <leinir> PixelQi's screen needs a matte surface to work properly
[8:09] <leinir> (there's a statement to that effect in one of the videos they did)
[8:10] <radioxid> and this makes the backlight-off item useless?
[8:11] <leinir> basically yes
[8:11] <leinir> transreflective screens and reflective screen surfaces are kind of counter-productive, basically :)
[8:12] <radioxid> damn it
[8:13] <radioxid> I need to try it!!!!
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[8:15] <Mrkva> am I correct that you need to have direct contact with capacitive touchscreen to use it?
[8:16] <alden> are we talking about pixelQi's screens?
[8:17] <alden> they do have multitouch screens now, dont they?
[8:19] <radioxid> yes they do
[8:19] <alden> cant seem to understand why its not feasible to have multitouch on a pixelQi screen (w/ backlight)
[8:20] <alden> cant they just overlay some sort of transparent non-reflecting material on top of it to make multitouch work?
[8:20] <radioxid> if PixelQI's screen goes shiny and you turn the backlight off, it could be horrible
[8:21] <alden> cool.. so is ai in talks with pixelQI about sourcing either one of their offerings?
[8:22] <radioxid> PixelQi's screens can be multitouch, as other LCD screens (adam notion ink has a multitouch PixelQi screen)
[8:22] <alden> i think it'd be a killer feature for the next TB
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[8:28] <alden> hmm ur right..
[8:31] <Mrkva> multitouch? why multitouch?
[8:31] <radioxid> About GMA500 : I think only the blob makes it crappy and it's got potential
[8:31] <radioxid> at least 6 fingers i PQ's multitouch
[8:35] <radioxid> Some guy said on fit-pc's website and intel's that the GMA500 makes it great with OpenCV
[8:36] <Mrkva> can someone, please, explain me, why is multitouch so cool?
[8:36] <Mrkva> except it's on the iphone :D
[8:37] <radioxid> and therefore on the iPad :p
[8:37] <Mrkva> ipad is silly
[8:38] <Mrkva> and to be honest, I don't understand how anyone can buy something as crippled as apple products
[8:40] <radioxid> Multitouch IS useful, really
[8:41] <Mrkva> when?
[8:41] * alden misses the days when apple and blackberries were just fruits
[8:41] <radioxid> still it's not in our habits, YET
[8:42] <radioxid> look at all those media manipulations you can do
[8:42] <bstag> i use multi touch alot. I havea multi touch tabeli built that commanly has 12 point tracked
[8:43] <bstag> for example my wife and kids playing a tank gam eon the same screen independantly controling each tak tread and firing mechonisom
[8:43] <radioxid> using just a single mouse pointer is retroactively harmful to the body ...and the mind
[8:44] <bstag> or when me and mmy sone are both paint a picture onthe samee screen being interactive with each others tasks
[8:44] <radioxid> I use my physical keyboard multitouchly :P
[8:44] <Mrkva> radioxid: thats why god invented keyboard and tiling wms
[8:44] <radioxid> :p
[8:45] <bstag> i am sure more uses for multi touch will com along as the interface tech changes. righ tnow it for basic gestures and custom interfaces.
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[8:47] <bstag> on my curretn multi touch setup i am trying to add facial motion recognation. so you can scroll by eye movement and such
[8:48] <alden> no way
[8:48] <Mrkva> bstag: but that's nothing to do with multi touch
[8:49] <alden> ud need realy high quality video and image recognition to track eyeballs?
[8:49] <bstag> no your right is has to do witha new way of thinking of ui interaction
[8:50] <bstag> which is all muti touch or muti mouse setups are. if no one tried new ways we still hae one button on the mouse
[8:50] <bstag> well besides a mac
[8:50] <bstag> alden it littel ssimple then you may think. the real issue is processing power. trackign that many frams that fast
[8:51] <bstag> you more tracking a ir reflection then anything
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[9:17] <radioxid> Also in my custom TB, I'll add a http://www.woweeone.com/ sound amplifier
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[9:52] <smknight> hi, im very interested in the touchpad, how long does it take to ship in the moment?
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[10:27] <MMlosh> please highlight me too (for the time it takes to ship TB)
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