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IRC Log for 2010-02-24

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[11:44] <FIN__Master> Anyone here?
[11:44] <FIN__Master> Ever anymore?
[11:45] <leinir> Sure :)
[11:45] <leinir> Just not so much talking :)
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[11:53] <FIN__Master> wanted to ask about webcams with tb
[11:53] <FIN__Master> dont know anyone who has tried
[11:58] <Aard> FIN__Master: have been thinking about it, but didn't find a suitable module so far
[12:00] <FIN__Master> so there arent any modules in the image
[12:01] <FIN__Master> tb would be perfect for time-lapse photography
[12:02] <Aard> depends. newer modules with usb should be supported by generic webcam drivers
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[12:04] <FIN__Master> there is some module which has a light-version for ARM: spca5xx-Light_edition
[12:05] <FIN__Master> there is a list of supported webcams in http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
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[12:07] <FIN__Master> Do I add new modules by just copying those to the /modules or is somekind of installation needed?
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[12:09] <Aard> they need to match the running kernel, so most lkely you'll need to compile it yourself
[12:10] <FIN__Master> ok
[12:11] <Aard> I don't think the default os install is set up for compiling additional modules (though I didn't check); most likely you need to set up your own oe-buildenvironement
[12:12] <Aard> if you don't have experience with that it would be easier to find something for the generic driver that (according to gregoire, didn't check here, too) is included
[12:15] <FIN__Master> Ok. Ill look into it. But when I was born, i had no experience in anything. I need some wrong decisions to learn these things :)
[12:17] <Aard> well, don't blame me when you end up being a software engineer, and decide to end your wasted life :p
[12:20] <FIN__Master> Hmm. I think I can't blame you for studying computer science in university for already 4 years :)
[12:20] <Aard> it's not too late. you can still become a valuable member of society!
[12:20] <FIN__Master> I know how to code some very neat HelloWorlds but dont know much about linux yet
[12:21] <FIN__Master> Im pretty sure I end up in some mountain with no electricity at all. Sometimes it sure feels like it
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[15:56] <Mrkva> hi
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[16:05] <Mrkva> is there anyone responsible from AI?
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[16:58] <Mrkva> gregoiregentil: hello, do you have a minute?
[16:59] <gregoiregentil> yes
[17:02] <Mrkva> gregoiregentil: would it be possible to somehow better inform the support department about current order status? something like "there are n orders before yours and we usually process m orders per month"?
[17:02] <gregoiregentil> I understand the request. The queue should go to zero at next batch early March
[17:03] <gregoiregentil> so it should "kind of" answering your question
[17:03] <Mrkva> yes, thanks
[17:04] <Mrkva> and if i may ask (but I think it'll be confidental information or something like that) - how many units have already been shipped?
[17:07] <gregoiregentil> Confidential indeed. Nice try to ask! But I would say more than I expected and more than we can initially handled, hence all the delays
[17:08] <Mrkva> Yes, the delays are the reason why i had to ask
[17:27] <Mrkva> it looks much more optimistic right now :) I'll maybe try the 12V charger I've built :D
[17:29] <gregoiregentil> 12V charger???
[17:29] <gregoiregentil> you will put 12V to what? I'm a little bit worried
[17:29] <gregoiregentil> everything is 5V max on all the boards
[17:31] <Mrkva> gregoiregentil: 12V input to charger, 5V (hopefully) output for TB
[17:31] <gregoiregentil> OK (hopefully)
[17:32] <Mrkva> has TB something like internal overvoltage protection?
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[17:54] <gregoiregentil> not at all...
[17:56] <bstag> from personal experiance i can say it does not :>
[17:57] <bstag> it smokes well :>
[17:57] <Mrkva> bstag: what have you done? :)
[17:57] <bstag> oh my first own was blown by solder job to the wrong pin per say
[17:57] <bstag> at least that pin couldnt take the voltage :>
[17:58] <bstag> this time i ma just gonna go teh jtag port route to look at the nand :>
[17:59] <Mrkva> in fact, I'm a little bit worried about the original AC adapter
[17:59] <bstag> its seems pretty stable to mee
[18:00] <bstag> but i only put it on the multi meter for 20 min or so
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[18:01] <Mrkva> bstag: well, the problem can be voltage spikes in the mains (big motor/inductor turning off or so)
[18:01] <bstag> yeah i dont notice those my is backed by a apc.. havent worried about brown outs or spikes for a while now
[18:02] <Mrkva> bstag: since I have a notebook instead of desktop PC nor do I :)
[18:02] <Mrkva> and as I was browsing the forums, I only hope I'll get a working unit :) because I live in the europe so any replacement will be "a little bit" expensive :(
[18:02] <bstag> well i got part of the last batch
[18:03] <bstag> still teh 256 version but the c1 revsion
[18:03] <bstag> it has been stable through daily use
[18:03] <bstag> i got 13 hrs out of abttery with wifi going
[18:03] <bstag> was suprised
[18:04] <bstag> at least free tells me it 256
[18:05] <bstag> the one i fried i bought on (ebay) in the early days :>
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[18:06] <Mrkva> about battery life - that would be great
[18:07] <bstag> yeah i was suprised. so are you making a car charging unit hence the 12v?
[18:10] <Mrkva> well, the charger is complete (http://alwaysinnovating.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=622#p3961). but it was only tested with regulated 12V PSU input (I still have to test it in the car where is a lot of EMI). and it wasn't tested with real Touchbook
[18:10] <bstag> ahh yes that post :.
[18:10] <bstag> :>
[18:11] <Mrkva> but so far I've tested it - it looks rock stable :)
[18:11] <bstag> good to know. i have it on my add to next digikey order list :>
[18:14] <Mrkva> maybe if you want more simple circuit, 4 parallel 7805 linear stabilizers on very huge heatsink could maybe also do the job :)
[18:14] <Mrkva> but that would be insanely ineffective
[18:17] <bstag> lol or you could do 12v to 120 the plug in the adapter :>
[18:18] <Mrkva> 12V to 120V? :)
[18:18] <Mrkva> that would be pretty difficult
[18:19] <bstag> power invertor ftw
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[18:20] <Mrkva> but you need a classic iron transformer (because of 50Hz frequency)
[18:20] <Mrkva> by the way, there are still 120V mains in the USA?
[18:21] <bstag> what comes into my house is not but i cant speak for the whole area of united states
[18:22] <Mrkva> because the 120V/240V switch cost me almost the whole desktop PC
[18:23] <Mrkva> my brother switched it because he wanted to see what will happen
[18:23] <bstag> what come sout of the walls is still 110 to 120
[18:23] <bstag> as that is th enorm here
[18:23] <bstag> half cycle stuff
[18:26] <bstag> of course i guess you could say it 120 positive side and 120 negative side so that equals 240 in some universe
[18:26] <bstag> :>
[18:28] <bstag> then again iam no sure how much threee phase power is used here also
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[18:29] <Mrkva> well, if I'm right it could be 120V phase-ground and 240V phase-phase
[18:29] <Mrkva> here we have 240V phase-ground and approx. 400V phase-phase
[18:31] <bstag> ehh i guess that what we get for adapting to electricty so early
[18:36] <Mrkva> I think in some places in our country we were using 120V mains in '80s :)
[18:36] <Mrkva> but I'm not sure
[18:38] <bstag> kinda hard to rewire a a country that one state is half the size of europe
[18:38] <Mrkva> :)
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[20:03] <drantin> http://omploader.org/vM25xeA sucks...
[20:04] <drantin> and I don't know just how it happened either... came back from class and noticed that the hinge seemed abnormally loose...
[20:07] <tommd> Similar story with my bike - figured someone kicked it.
[20:12] <Mrkva> that hinge not seems to be very durable
[20:13] <Mrkva> two tiny screws to plastic!?
[20:14] <drantin> well, it's worked fine for months now... as best I can tell, it just got jostled the wrong way in my backpack...
[20:16] <Mrkva> on the other hand... this isn't anything what good epoxy won't fix :)
[20:16] <drantin> i'll have to wait until tomorrow to try :/
[20:17] <Mrkva> well, I've figured out the plastic becomes very fragile if frozen
[20:18] <drantin> hm... it's been cold out recently, but not that cold... and it spends most of its time indoors
[20:19] <Mrkva> on my lenovo n200 laptop the inner LCD frame cracked without any sign of rough handling
[20:24] <Mrkva> and it wasn't so cold here also... -5 to -10 DEGC
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