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IRC Log for 2010-02-16

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[3:27] <jscinoz> So i recieved my touch book today (I live in australia)...
[3:28] <leinir> Wooh! \o/
[3:28] <jscinoz> I'm trying to figure out how the bootloader on it works, basically what must i do to get it to boot a different kernel
[3:28] <jscinoz> i've got another SD card i want to setup with gentoo :)
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[3:30] <jscinoz> the u-boot.bin file i need, is that just a copy of the u-boot bootloader that has to be on the sd card?
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[3:50] <jscinoz> what is the microusb connector inside the touchbook for?
[3:57] <jscinoz> anyone know what the boardname is to use when building uboot for the touch book?
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[8:33] <martinh> so. is there any plans on making a thumbee kernel?
[8:38] <_koen_> once there is a hw/sw combo that actually works, gregoiregentil might consider that
[8:38] <_koen_> but the combination of cortex silicon bugs and missing bits in toolchains makes thumb2 currently very hard to do right
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[9:05] <Corsac> (what's thumb2?)
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[9:29] <_koen_> Corsac: 16bit versions of 32 bit instructions
[9:30] <_koen_> Corsac: thumb1 didn't have complete coverage and a performance penalty, so you had to be carefull with that
[9:30] <_koen_> thumb2 is said to have full coverage and no performance penalty
[9:30] <_koen_> smaller binaries, less ram usage, less cache thrashing, etc
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[10:28] <topi`> _koen_: very *little* performance penalty, rather than none
[10:29] <topi`> you can't do all the fancy things with Thumb2, but it does have some insns that compensate for it, like the if..then construct
[10:29] <topi`> can't remember the details, I'm not interested in thumb2
[10:30] <topi`> the expected amount to save in instruction cache thrashing is around 30%
[10:30] <topi`> but it still won't help your data cache :/
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[12:38] <bstag_TB> hmm new touchbook in the mail today. now waitingo n
[12:38] <bstag_TB> on charge time
[12:39] <leinir> Remember it has to be turned on :)
[12:39] <leinir> But yeah, it does take a considerable amount of time to charge :)
[12:39] <bstag_TB> lol oh its on :>
[12:39] <bstag_TB> still getting used to the keyboard
[12:39] <leinir> good good :)
[12:40] <leinir> *nods* Keyboard is a bit strange
[12:40] <bstag_TB> haventused one since o blew my last one up in october
[12:41] <leinir> ooh... right :)
[12:43] <bstag_TB> lets just say the soldering iron slipped during a hardware mod
[12:46] <leinir> d'oh!
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[13:24] <arthurjohnson> Greetings, this is a very stupid question. Does the tablet itself support USB input devices? Like USB keyboard and mice?
[13:26] <bstag_TB> um yes well at least ones i have used
[13:27] <arthurjohnson> My wife wants one, but would rarely use the keyboard.
[13:27] <arthurjohnson> Actually, she wanted an iPad, and I'm a Linux guy, and would rather see her with one of these.
[13:28] <bstag_TB> understand
[13:28] <bstag_TB> i have both a TB and a t91mt
[13:28] <bstag_TB> the later running ubuntu
[13:29] <bstag_TB> not much fan of the apple tax
[13:29] <arthurjohnson> The tablet is a great idea for non-tech people, but the iPad is too overpriced.
[13:29] <arthurjohnson> Especially for the class of computing device that its in
[13:30] <drantin> arthurjohnson: all the usb connectors are in the screen portion, the bottom is just a keyboard+battery
[13:30] <bstag_TB> wont get a arguemtn from me ;.
[13:33] <bstag_TB> just understand the software is still a work in progress
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[15:37] <jscinoz> Anyone know what the microusb port inside the top part is for?
[15:38] <bstag> i have a micro a adapter toa standard a adapter it has allowed me to use it as a normal one
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[15:39] <bstag> http://wip.vernier.com/accessories/access.html?usb-mini&template=basic.html
[15:40] <jscinoz> bstag: ok so its a normal host port? I just wasnt sure if thats what it was or if it was a slave port for connecting it to another device for debugging or something
[15:41] <mjr> heh, "Patented universal USB cable" "proprietary set of ends" so in practice means "gonna need replacement ends? pay big bucks" ;)
[15:42] <bstag> P3: Internal USB mini A (available)
[15:42] <bstag> according to the wiki
[15:43] <bstag> seemed to work for me
[15:43] <bstag> i really hacked a cable myself
[15:43] <bstag> moved the blue tooth to it
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[15:52] <bstag> the old beagle board serial port is p9 i think
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[16:16] <bstag> of course now the jtag port is staring me in the face. that would be you debug port
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[16:57] <jscinoz> as we ll as my 32gb SD, im thinking of getting a fwe of these: http://www.supertalent.com/products/stt_usb_detail.php and using LVM :D
[16:58] <jscinoz> maybe get like 128gb storage on my touchbook if i can use this really small usb hub i have
[17:01] <bstag> gotcha
[17:02] <bstag> same reason i am moving things around. even looking to move the min ifrom down below back inward to have another internal
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[21:17] <bstag> shh gregoire is here
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[21:18] <bstag> lol
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[23:36] <Corsac> hey there
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