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[0:08] <extrados> Is it correct that the the battery life on touchbooks isn't very good right now?
[1:47] <extrados> And is the handwriting recognition done using xstroke, cellwriter or something else entirely? How does it handle Greek characters?
[1:48] <leinir> the battery life is stunning when you consider that it's never throttled :)
[1:48] <leinir> 10 hours at full smack is not bad battery life, really ;)
[1:49] <leinir> as for handwriting, no idea :)
[1:50] <drantin> it has handwriting recognition?
[1:54] <extrados> leinir: So the 10 hours is without the pm part of linux-omap?
[1:54] <extrados> drantin: the faq claims it does
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[1:58] <leinir> extrados: indeed :)
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[4:45] <acegiak> I have one or two questions about the touchbook before I buy it, is there anyone around who can answer them?
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[7:17] <martinh> build #3 of wxpython. lets see if this one completes.
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[8:15] <martinh> damn. still no love.
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[9:41] <topi_> leinir: do you know when the AI folks are going to have a look at getting the power management to work properly?
[9:42] <topi_> I know currently PM does not work on my beagle board, but have no idea whether it is because of a hardware issue or not
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[11:39] <leinir> topi_: it's on the roadmap, but other than that i've no idea :)
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[11:52] <tommd> topi_: I'm cross compiling GHC Head today - any comments on recent issues?
[11:53] <tommd> s/cross compiling/porting/
[12:42] <leinir> hmm...
[12:43] <leinir> does anybody know what happens if i've got both the android, tbuntu and ai-os squashfs images downloaded when i run the install-sd.sh script?
[12:43] <leinir> it /looks/ as though it'll copy all three onto the sd card, but... what happens then? :)
[12:43] * leinir likes the idea of multi-boot being available, but... has a feeling that it might be problematic ;)
[12:57] <leinir> interesting... re-reading the script, you can't /not/ install all three... right ;)
[13:00] <drantin> the squashed image is loaded on boot
[13:00] <drantin> leinir: if you don't have them all downloaded, the install script downloads them for you
[13:01] <leinir> yes, but my connection is sort of dodgy, so i'm just making sure i've actually got them before i start :)
[13:01] <leinir> so... that's how i noticed that it'd be downloading all three :)
[13:01] * leinir thus became intrigued ;)
[13:32] <tommd> leinir: The newest OS is setup to triple boot the three images
[13:32] <leinir> tommd: Nicely :)
[13:32] <tommd> leinir: Just tap the touch screen at some particular point during boot
[13:32] <tommd> oh, you are playing with it, humm?
[13:32] <leinir> well, i'm downloading it :)
[13:32] <leinir> kind of a slow connection here ;)
[13:33] <tommd> I just flashed with sd-card.gz and don't think that includes the other OSes
[13:33] <tommd> I recall when I considered getting 5Kbps a good speed.
[13:34] <drantin> I can only remember back to 8K/s being good :(
[13:35] <drantin> (we had ISDN)
[13:39] <tommd> lucky!
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[14:03] <extrados> The Touchbook OS package manager is ipkg, right? How many packages are available through ipkg?
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[14:29] <martinh> just about everything on openembedded's distro server.
[14:30] <martinh> ipkg got renamed opkg. check the urls in /etc/opkg conf files.
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[16:02] <intrados> Has anyone tried installing a source based package management system on the Touchbook OS?
[16:12] <Gary13579> I dunno how much I'd like a source based package manager on the tb
[16:12] <Gary13579> desktop it's fine, as compiling takes no time
[16:12] <intrados> Well, what do you do when you need a package that isn't in the opkg database
[16:12] <intrados> ?
[16:18] <martinh> cross compile. more often than not.
[16:22] <intrados> and just do dependencies manually?
[16:23] <martinh> it's much quicker. :->
[16:23] <martinh> what package do you need that's not there?
[16:24] <intrados> Well, I was just looking at the opkg list and I didn't see emacs or latex for example
[16:25] <martinh> you really think emacs wouldn't be there?
[16:25] <Gary13579> both of which I would rather stab myself in the eye than use.
[16:26] <intrados> martinh: Does that mean they are and just aren't listed?
[16:26] <martinh> though, i'm a bit confused about the latex. stuff like lyx & abiword plug in for it are there. . .
[16:26] <martinh> intrados: did you okpg update before looking?
[16:26] <martinh> because, yes. I see emacs.
[16:27] <intrados> I don't have opkg or a touchbook right now. I'm just looking at the list on the opkg website
[16:27] <martinh> what's the "opkg website"?
[16:27] <intrados> opkg.org
[16:27] <martinh> because, like, apt-get or yum, you can configure different repositories.
[16:28] <martinh> the touchbook uses the openembedded repositories.
[16:28] <intrados> Ah. So hopefully there are more complete repositories then?
[16:28] <martinh> much much more complete. and recent versions come with tbuntu as well.
[16:30] <martinh> and sadly, still no wxPython.
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[16:34] <intrados> Is there a list of opkg packages available through the openembedded repository? I'm having a little trouble finding such a list if it exists
[16:39] <martinh> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/unstable/ipk/glibc/armv7a/
[16:40] <intrados> ah. thank you
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[19:44] <martinh> yay. first run of taskcoach. a few other python modules were missing, but not for any apparently good reason.
[19:48] <martinh> ah! it's in python-webpy
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