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IRC Log for 2009-11-24

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[0:50] <_koen_> DJWillis: good morning!
[1:04] <DJWillis> _koen_: hola
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[2:08] <_koen_> DJWillis: your sudo/pam/shadow stuff is in OE now
[2:16] <DJWillis> _koen_: nice, now the fallout and bitching can start ;-)
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[2:59] <vishal___> Hi I have compiled the 2.6.29 rc48 kernel with the patches given in the wiki. My kernel is not booting up...
[2:59] <vishal___> Has anyone done this exercise?
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[3:23] <vishal___> Hi I have compiled the 2.6.29 rc48 kernel with the patches given in the wiki. My kernel is not booting up... Has anyone done this exercise?
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[4:46] <DJWillis> _koen_: any chance you can pull in http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openembedded.git;a=commit;h=5a2e68d7cacecafdf62c37fbb2271c1e19157e61 - Reworking PAM based on #oe feedback to support DISTRO_FEATURES.
[4:49] <_koen_> I can, put disabling pam support is not that simple at #oe thinks
[4:50] <DJWillis> _koen_: I realise that, this is more for sudo and shadow so you can elect the DISTRO into building the recipie with PAM support, that seems sane in that context or am I missing something.
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[4:51] <_koen_> some packages have a mandatory pam requirement
[4:52] <_koen_> but if people want to spend time disabling pam in sudo and shadow, I'm not going to stop them
[4:53] <DJWillis> _koen_: I got told, you fucked up, fix it, so I am doing it and I actually want PAM, tell me again why we do this ;-)
[4:57] * _koen_ reads #oe log
[4:58] <_koen_> funny how people not using shadow and sudo suddenly have an opinion
[4:58] <DJWillis> _koen_: I guess I learnt how to use OVERRIDES so it's not a loss ;-)
[4:59] <DJWillis> _koen_: yep, I figured they all used tinylogin ;-) - Still, will be nice to get it in and if that is what it takes.
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[7:05] <yarma> hi folks
[7:24] <yarma> is there someone awake?
[7:24] <drantin> nope
[7:24] <yarma> ok
[7:25] <yarma> i have a little question about the usability of the touch book
[7:25] <yarma> i planed to use it outdoor
[7:26] <yarma> and I just want to know if teh screen is still readible with some sunshine onit ...
[7:27] <dpb> I can answer you next summer.
[7:33] <yarma> ok
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[7:35] <yarma> and how is it with normal light ?
[7:36] <yarma> many reflects like a mirror, or a good non reflective panel?
[7:36] <Meizirkki> omfg that's it
[7:37] * Meizirkki is now pissed at TB's build quality
[7:37] <Meizirkki> hinge gone broken.. i fixed it. Now it's broken again but just a different way !
[7:37] <Meizirkki> That plastic is way too shitty
[7:42] <reis> jvs: debian squeeze tslib and xserver-xorg-input-tslib (0.0.6-1) works. that means the button-release events are as expected
[7:43] <reis> verified with xev, and tested using tuxpaint (<- man that sure is a crazy tool ;)
[7:43] <reis> so ... if someone manages to get the new xserver-xorg-input-tslib for tb-os this problem should be fixed
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[7:50] <jvs> awesome reis
[7:52] <reis> yeah, looks good to me
[7:52] <jvs> this means draggin' and clickin' would work totally fine?
[7:53] <jvs> reis ^
[7:53] <reis> i just tested for minute or so, ... but yes, button click, motion notify and the corresponing release events are as one would expect
[7:56] <DJWillis> _koen_: can you look over the top 2 commits on http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openembedded.git;a=shortlog;h=op.openembedded.dev to see if they address the PAM/DISTRO_FEAT issues and seem sane?
[7:56] <jvs> cool, this should allow taking notes as one would expect it
[7:56] <reis> yes
[7:56] <jvs> and probably influence kintetic scrolling
[7:57] <jvs> *kinetic
[7:57] <reis> what would i have to do to enable kinetic scrolling ?
[7:57] <reis> in order to test it in the debian chroot ?
[7:57] <jvs> nah
[7:58] <DJWillis> reis: the new xserver-input-tslib is in OE already and being used, I assume the TB AISO is still on 0.5 then?
[7:58] <jvs> if it doesn't interpret as two drawn lines
[7:58] <jvs> but only one
[7:58] <jvs> this prevents it from jumping back to the point from where you started
[7:58] <reis> jes DJWillis i think it is 0.5 or 0.5-8 perhaps?
[7:58] <_koen_> DJWillis: require sudo${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'pam', '-pam', '', d)}.inc and put the pam stuff in sudo-pam.inc
[7:58] <DJWillis> reis: kinetic scrolling only works in supporting GTK+ controls with the TS flag setup in gtkrc
[7:59] <DJWillis> _koen_: arse ;-)
[7:59] <reis> thanks DJWillis, will try it when i find time
[7:59] <DJWillis> _koen_: not so good for shadow but I guess that makes sense.
[8:02] <_koen_> DJWillis: and you'll probably need to copy the install -d into do_install_append_pam for shadow
[8:04] <DJWillis> _koen_: what one? The i -d for pam.d is already there.
[8:04] <_koen_> + install -d ${D}${localstatedir}/spool/mail/
[8:05] <DJWillis> _koen_: but that's not PAM related so is general shadow with or without PAM. (or am I missing something)
[8:06] <_koen_> foo_append_bar() {}
[8:06] <_koen_> foo_append() {}
[8:06] <_koen_> I remember running into that
[8:07] <_koen_> it doesn't work as you think it does
[8:07] <_koen_> maybe they fixed bitbake in the meantime, but in the past it would only do _append_bar and not _append
[8:08] <DJWillis> _koen_: hmmm, odd, I have built with and without and it all seemed to work as expected for both but I may have got that wrong. The DIR's I expect for PAM end up in there as well as everything else.
[8:08] <_koen_> so they fixed bitbake :)
[8:08] <DJWillis> _koen_: I'll just check the ipk again to be sure ;-)
[8:09] <DJWillis> _koen_: yep, ipk all correct and as expected, /var/spool/mail and /etc/pam.d all in there ;-)
[8:10] * _koen_ is up to date with customer emails and all his machines are busy compiling
[8:10] <_koen_> where is my sudoku magazine?
[8:10] <DJWillis> _koen_: ok for some :)
[8:14] <_koen_> DJWillis: fwiw, in OE we don't use the filename in the commit message, only PN and PV
[8:14] <_koen_> DJWillis: so loose the underscore :)
[8:15] <DJWillis> _koen_: i'll just go and whip myself
[8:15] <DJWillis> Noted ;-)
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[9:30] <vishal___> HI has anyone tried compiling kernel following the steps on the wiki
[9:34] <vishal___> what is the mer on touchbook?
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[9:45] <Amos> niin'
[9:45] <Hy-PeR> is anybody there
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[10:05] <tommd> We are all here
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[10:16] <Amos> Have anyone seen alexandre_?
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[10:39] <mandroid> hi
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[11:16] <DJWillis> _koen_: as an aside, have you tried libgles-omap3-3.00.00.09 as a non root user? Only just noticed that PVR as non root does not seem to work (not had time to look into it but the old chmod 666 fix is still there)
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[13:37] <_koen_> DJWillis: no, I'm way ahead of .09 :)
[13:38] <DJWillis> _koen_: ok for some, does that work as a non-root user ;-)
[13:38] <_koen_> will have to try tomorrow
[13:38] * _koen_ makes a note to mention permission problem during the gfx confcall tomorrow
[13:39] <DJWillis> Danke!
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[13:44] * _koen_ notices lots of PMs at his other IRC client
[13:45] <_koen_> those will have to wait till tomorrow
[13:45] <_koen_> 'night all
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[14:04] <Bigshot_> while using xournal and annotating "pdf" files i get sudden unwanted straight lines appearing while annotating, i have tx2z touchsmart notebook (HP). any ideas? using ubuntu 9.10 (64)
[14:05] <drantin> :/
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[14:06] <drantin> this channel is rather specific to the always innovating touch book :/
[14:07] <Bigshot_> ahh where to go to get some assistance then?
[14:07] <drantin> well, someone here *might* know something if you wait a while. but not many will be familiar with your hardware :/
[14:08] <Bigshot_> man my hardware is bleeding edge B-)
[14:08] <drantin> ours is beta ;)
[14:08] <Bigshot_> lol
[14:08] <Bigshot_> good one
[14:08] <drantin> and true!
[14:09] <Bigshot_> oh then i take i back ^^
[14:09] <Bigshot_> it*
[14:09] <drantin> http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/gallery_photo.htm
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[14:10] <Bigshot_> anyways, do you know any other channel where i can get some assistance with my touch book?
[14:12] <drantin> #touchelectronics ?
[14:12] <drantin> but you have a "tablet pc" not a touch book ;)
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[14:15] <drantin> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:v1acvm.2.5 <-- my evidence
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[14:16] <snlemons-tb> so, there's no man package in the default repos. is it possible/wise for me to install it from another armv7a repo?
[14:17] <snlemons-tb> like, there seems to be one at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv7a/base/, but default for TB is unstable, rather than 2008
[14:20] <DJWillis> snlemons-tb: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/unstable/ipk/glibc/armv7a/ is closer to what the AISO is forked from.
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[14:20] <snlemons-tb> DJWillis: right, but no man package there
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[15:49] <snlemons-tb> anyone know how I can install man on the TB? there are packages in the other angstrom armv7a repos (like 2008), but none in unstable.
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[19:47] [freenode-connect VERSION]
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[20:44] <vishal___> has anyone succesfully compiled the kernel by the description given in wiki using openembedded ?
[20:44] <vishal___> I have patched and tried booting
[20:45] <vishal___> It failed.On enbling low level debugging I found the machine id itself not matching
[20:45] <vishal___> anyone there ?
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[21:32] <gregoiregentil> vishal__: I have updated a few weeks ago the kernel so that it uses our own Touch Book ID (it was using Beagleboard ID before)
[21:32] <gregoiregentil> vishal__: I don't know exactly what there is on the wiki. It's better to use the git which is more up-to-date
[21:32] <gregoiregentil> vishal__: you have all the patches there.
[21:33] <gregoiregentil> vishal__: also what is important is that u-boot passes the id to the kernel adn they should match
[21:34] <gregoiregentil> and to complexify a little bit more the situation, u-boot on git (or on wiki) still uses the beagleboard branch...
[21:34] <gregoiregentil> Read this: http://git.alwaysinnovating.com/cgit.cgi/ai.openembedded.dev/tree/recipes/u-boot/u-boot-git/touchbook-config.patch
[21:35] <gregoiregentil> and this: http://git.alwaysinnovating.com/cgit.cgi/ai.openembedded.dev/tree/recipes/linux/linux-omap-2.6.29/omap3-touchbook/board-omap3touchbook.c
[21:59] <vishal___> gregoiregentil: thank you very much. Ill try with what is given in the git
[22:00] <gregoiregentil> OK. Post on the chat room your results, especially if it's not working (to get some help)
[22:05] <vishal___> Ya I will do that .
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