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[0:00] <fooq> dpb: country?
[0:00] <fooq> continent?
[0:03] <dpb> Finland, Europe
[0:09] <fooq> wow good to know these thingies find their way to europe finally
[0:13] <dpb> Yep.
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[0:48] <Corsac> now, next step is shipping :p
[0:51] <dpb> Yep.
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[0:54] <jvs> no tbs for Autria :(
[0:56] * Macer checks the tracking number again
[1:03] <canta> i want one with german keyboard layout.
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[1:16] <Corsac> looking at the forum threads, I'm really concerned about people rating their order "10" just to get a TB early
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[1:34] <jvs> well, I dunno if the survey is the only thing that counts
[1:34] <jvs> we have ordered as soon as international orders have been accepted
[1:34] <jvs> and rated the order "10"
[1:35] <jvs> and did not receive an email yet
[1:36] <jvs> although we have stated, that we actually want to develop for and help to improve the touchbook
[1:36] <jvs> nevermind
[1:37] <Eruquen> we just received an email this very night and we also ordered as soon as we could
[1:37] <jvs> congrats Eruquen
[1:38] <Eruquen> make sure to state that your order is 2 single pre-orders for 2 different people if that's the case
[1:38] <fooq> 3 ;) its for three
[1:38] <Eruquen> oh, okay
[1:38] <jvs> we have ordered 3
[1:38] <jvs> and though of ordering more, after evaluating
[1:39] <Eruquen> maybe gregoire didn't want to give out three at once? :D
[1:39] <jvs> probably
[1:39] <fooq> what do you mean by stating the order as single pre oders Eruquen ?
[1:40] <fooq> why should that be necessary?
[1:40] <Eruquen> well, I don't know if it's really necessary but gregoire always wrote "single pre-orders" or something to that extent
[1:40] <fooq> ah.. hmm
[1:40] <jvs> Eruquen, I see
[1:41] <Eruquen> so we thought maybe it would be a good idea to send him a mail so that he knows it's not 2 touchbooks for 1 person
[1:41] <jvs> it's good that they allow to order multiplte touchbooks then
[1:41] <jvs> Eruquen, well, if they actually read the comments in the survey, they know its for 3 persons
[1:41] <fooq> :P
[1:42] <Eruquen> hehe, okay
[1:43] <Eruquen> still, we didn't want to take any chances
[1:44] <Eruquen> maybe it helped, maybe it didn't
[1:44] <fooq> seems it did.
[1:44] <honk> or maybe he just got lucky
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[10:51] <spvensko> halb
[10:53] <spvensko> yikes :(
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[10:53] <spvensko> i think i may put off buying mine until the production is more streamlined
[10:53] <spvensko> ie i won't have to wait an indeterminate amount of months to get it
[10:54] <spvensko> 0 results found for touchbook
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[10:59] <spvensko> are those ARM powered?
[10:59] <spvensko> how do you like it?
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[11:22] <martinh> Macer: the usps tracking numbers don't actually track location. just delivery confirmation.
[11:23] <martinh> so. depending on where you live, you might well get it today.
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[11:42] <spvensko> j #gumstix
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[12:26] <snlemons> wonder when the october shipments will start. I'm getting all excited.
[12:27] <snlemons> will be nice to stop just reading the forums/wiki and finally be able to try stuff.
[12:28] <drantin> martinh: when delivery takes a long time, it can show location, it just doesn't get updated at nearly the speed you'd want for "tracking" it :/
[12:32] <azaghal> The next shipment is in October? o.O
[12:33] <azaghal> Hm... Now if only things would get sent to Europe...
[12:35] <yoru_> there was a shipment to somebody fromeurope today
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[12:35] <azaghal> Oooh
[12:35] <azaghal> Whom? o.o
[12:35] <yoru_> w8 i will look in the log
[12:35] <martinh> drantin: that "long time" must be a very long time. cuz i've had stuff that took over a week and never got updated.
[12:36] <yoru_> dpb finland
[12:36] <yoru_> (first is the nick :P)
[12:36] * azaghal gets a plane ticket to Finland
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[12:36] <azaghal> _And_ an axe...
[12:38] <drantin> martinh: when a shipment takes on the order of weeks ;)
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[12:40] <dpb> azaghal: there are a few to Europe, read the forums.
[12:41] <dpb> Haven't been shipped yet, just got the mail last night that said it's been processed.
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[13:27] <robclark> Macer: well, I got a shipping confirmation.. but still waiting for the package..
[13:27] * robclark wonders how long it should take too get from CA to TX?
[13:37] <martinh> drantin: i've never seen a usps shipment take that long. . .
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[14:16] * robclark curses USPS's lack of tracking or confirming..
[14:19] <robclark> hmm.. so it will arrive in Dallas tomorrow when no one is here :-(
[14:20] <Corsac> hmhm, here I didn't yet have a mail following the ???order processed???
[14:20] <hyc> USPS will confirm that they delivered it to a particular address
[14:20] <hyc> that only costs 50 cents
[14:21] <hyc> doing more detailed tracking costs a couple $$ more
[14:21] <hyc> yep
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[14:44] <goathens> Hello, I'm curious of anyone has suggested adding the pixel-Qi screen to the touchbook? http://www.pixelqi.com/ (I'm unrelated with this company).
[14:44] <Corsac> goathens: look at the forums
[14:44] <goathens> Ahh, thank you
[14:44] <goathens> I shall.
[14:44] <Corsac> though the ???pixel-Qi screen??? is not really a screen, it's a concept atm :)
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[14:48] <goathens> I'd consider it more than a concept if they have created physical devices right? Or can something have prototypes and still be a concept.
[14:49] <goathens> Ohh, too bad about the touch-screen incompatability.
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[14:51] <drantin> martinh: guess I've just been unlucky :/
[14:54] <shiznebit_> well shit thats so cheap Gregoire completely excluded me
[14:54] <shiznebit_> -_-
[14:54] <shiznebit_> meh, and he didn't repsond to the email i sent him
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[15:16] * drantin doesn't actually expect responses to queries about particular non-fulfilled orders until a regular shipment schedule has been going on for a while :/
[15:23] * drantin expects to play support for a touchbook for his dad for a month before he gets his -_-
[15:24] <drantin> martinh: could also be due to how many of my shipments come from overseas
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[15:33] <asciiforever> good evening, all. quick question, if anyone's here. has anyone had any luck with sound recorder on the touchbook?
[15:33] <hyc> haven't tried it
[15:33] <hyc> my mic jack keeps ejecting anything I plug into it
[15:34] <asciiforever> heh... mine was too, so i used my dremel on the mic plug and narrowed it down a bit so it could go in further
[15:34] <hyc> these jacks seem to need some work... I'll have to unscrew the board to look into it I guess
[15:34] <asciiforever> the jack is just a bit too far recessed
[15:35] <asciiforever> anyway, i got my mic plugged in now, but sound recorder doesn't work
[15:36] <asciiforever> at least it's failing in an informative way, was just wondering if anyone else was having problems out of it or if i broke it myself
[15:37] <hyc> hmm, just tried it here, it's telling me I'm missing the gstreamer "level" plugin
[15:37] <hyc> wtf...
[15:39] <asciiforever> same here
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[15:40] <robclark> hyc: 'level' is in gst-plugins-good.. but what app are you using to record?
[15:40] <hyc> it's just called sound recorder
[15:40] <asciiforever> as soon as i get connected, i was going to try to get that from ipkg
[15:40] <asciiforever> as far as getting connected goes, i have to re-do all that popen stuff you lead me through before
[15:40] <robclark> hmm.. well, 'level' isn't required to record, but maybe the sound recorder app needs it..
[15:40] <hyc> at the moment I'm a bit leery of doing another pull from ipkg
[15:41] <hyc> it always installs libc 2.9 and the touchbook is on libc 2.6
[15:41] <hyc> many things break...
[15:41] <robclark> AFAIK, 'level' is just generating some messages for the application about things like sound levels..
[15:42] <robclark> I probably have an ipkg for it... hang on, let me check..
[15:42] <hyc> I guess we need to ask gregoire to put an AI repo online
[15:42] <asciiforever> the angstrom package browser shows gst-plugin-level
[15:43] <robclark> well, I have a gst-plugin-level_git-r3_armv7a.ipk... I'm not sure if that will work w/ the other gstreamer pkgs on TB, or if other ipk's need to be updated..
[15:43] <robclark> I can mail it to someone if they want to try (it is 12KB)
[15:44] <robclark> (or if some angstrom repo has it, that is more likely to be the version you need)
[15:44] <hyc> hmm. I'm just gonna try installing the one in the current pkg db, see what happens
[15:45] <robclark> that is probably your best bet
[15:45] <hyc> ugh. the new AI kernel is built with preempt enabled
[15:45] <hyc> it's totally killed network performance
[15:45] <robclark> is it still 2.6.29?
[15:45] <hyc> yeah
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[15:47] <robclark> well.. I *was* going to take a stab at getting 2.6.31 going over the weekend.. but the TB didn't arrive yet.. I guess it will arrive on monday, when I don't have any time to play until the next weekend :-(
[15:48] <asciiforever> maybe it will arrive tomorrow
[15:48] <asciiforever> they ship USPS, and mine came on a saturday
[15:48] <robclark> well... I'm 90% sure I had it shipped to my work addr..
[15:48] <asciiforever> ah
[15:48] <hyc> I have a decent 2.6.29 build, but it didn't like the 2009.09b rootfs. hopefully .09c will work.
[15:49] <robclark> (well, ok, 10% chance that I get home this evening and it is waiting for me)
[15:50] * robclark should go home and see if there is a TB
[15:50] <robclark> bbl
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[16:08] <asciiforever> oh?
[16:10] <asciiforever> ah, hang in there
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[16:12] <asciiforever> bummer... i installed gst-plugin-level, and now sound recorder is failing with an "internal gstreamer error"
[16:13] <hyc> what do you get from gst-inspect level ?
[16:14] <asciiforever> quite a lot...
[16:15] <hyc> no error message about cmem then i take it
[16:15] <asciiforever> looking through it now
[16:15] <asciiforever> but if it would have been the only output, then no
[16:16] <hyc> ok
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[16:21] <hyc> why bother?
[16:21] <hyc> it's slow...
[16:22] <hyc> ARM NEON is quite good
[16:22] <hyc> but it's still only running 600MHz
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[16:37] <hyc> that's the largest I've seen
[16:39] <hyc> I don't see why not
[16:39] <hyc> but haven't really looked
[16:40] <hyc> what are you going to put on it?
[16:40] <hyc> yeah, SD is pretty crap for performance
[16:40] <hyc> the basic interface is too slow
[16:41] <hyc> CF card would have been nice
[16:41] <hyc> then you could get up to full IDE speed, 133MB/sec
[16:41] <hyc> assuming everything else was fast enough
[16:41] <hyc> but SD ... forget it
[16:42] <hyc> for reads, sure
[16:42] <hyc> class spec tells minimum write speed
[16:42] <hyc> and usually you only ever see that speed. never faster.
[16:43] <hyc> and as the card ages, it still goes slower.
[16:43] <hyc> ages/gets used
[16:44] <drantin> nothing wrong with sticking a usb drive on the inside :/
[16:44] <hyc> sdhc max is 32
[16:44] <hyc> http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdhc/
[16:44] <hyc> so I guess we want sdxc http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc/
[16:44] <drantin> hyc: yes, now we get to wait until sdxc is commonplace
[16:45] <hyc> clearly you thought wrong. why would sdcard.org lie about their spec...
[16:46] <hyc> never use 2nd hand info when it's just as easy to go straight to the source.
[16:47] <drantin> heh, there are lots of places that say the normal SD cards can only go up to 2G, but there are some 4G floating out there...
[16:48] <hyc> yeah, but it's a crapshoot whether a normal SD reader will access it
[16:49] <hyc> at today's flash prices $4/GB that will cost you a mere $4K
[16:49] <hyc> sorry $8K
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[16:50] <hyc> yeah, there will be at least a 50% markup on it
[16:51] <hyc> wow, I'm looking at the wrong prices. an 8Gbit MLC is $4.00, but 128Gbit is now only $22. 16x the memory for only 5x the price.
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[16:52] <hyc> heh
[16:53] <hyc> well, you have no idea what design changes are needed to get the higher interface speed
[16:53] <hyc> I would hate to read/write 2TB of data at 6MB/sec.
[16:54] <hyc> doesn't matter, time spent is time spent. whether a bit at a time or all at once.
[16:54] <hyc> you can always buy faster hardware, you can't buy more time.
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[21:50] <jtb_> so does anybody know if the batch has been shipped?
[21:50] <jtb_> I haven't even gotten my tracking number yet
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[21:56] <spvensko_> MaceN8x0: if you don't like it you can always sell it to me ;)
[21:57] <spvensko_> might be worth it just to avoid the month long wait times
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[23:52] <spvensko_> that's bad?
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